she's been much more notable secretary of state than she was united states senator first lady. >> isn't it -- any senator is not going to have the power to actually do things -- >> but, bonnie, seriously speaking she's at the crescendo of her career, will be a grandmother some point soon. and if i'm hillary clinton i don't run for president again for however many consecutive years now she's been voted the most admired woman in the u.s. above oprah, above michelle obama and others. and so she really can go out on a high note without that rough and tumble of a campaign. i sat here -- the reason i'm laughing, hillary clinton i sat her eight years ago heard it eight years ago. she was beat by somebody nobody was talked about at the time. it's not going to be easy for 70-year-old hillary clinton to turn back some democrats -- >> won't be quite that -- she'll be 68. >> believe me we always age it out for women, don't we? >> they're not distinguished just old. >> seriously speaking there are a lot of up and comers in democratic party i don't think are going to let her have that. >> all right.